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"As you may be aware, the Welfare Reform Bill passed its second reading
in the House of Lords and has now moved onto committee stage.
Last Wednesday, Lords tabled a “highly unusual” motion to send the bill to
Grand Committee, which will take place in side rooms, rather than a fully accessible
public room. The motion was voted through, 263 votes to 211, and the bill will now
be sent to the Grand Committee.
The main difference between a Committee and a Grand Committee is that no
votes take place during a Grand Committee. Therefore, amendments will not
be voted on individually. There is also no public gallery and less room for all
peers to attend at once.
The reasons given for taking this step were that a bill of this complexity would
block up the chamber and delay other bills. Also, that too many people would
want to take part in the debate and it would take up too much time. However,
It now appears that the Main Chamber will actually be sitting empty during Grand
Committee
Several Lords have stated their objections to this:
“There is a great deal of consternation that is being expressed by disabled
people about this decision.
Noble Lords have received a number of e-mails. There is both a practical and
a symbolic significance to this decision. Disabled people feel that their democratic
right to observe the proceedings at the Committee stage is being severely curtailed
by any decision to take the whole of the Committee stage off the Floor of the House.
I think it is wrong . As well as this, we are now starting a week earlier than
previously announced - when some Lord's may still be on holiday - this is because
the recess dates were changed late in the day. I'm concerned also about my
fellow peers who are wheelchair users. Apparently we may be meeting in a
committee room upstairs, which is larger than the Moses Room, though
still far from ideal. It had already been accepted on this side that some of the
Committee stage should be taken in Grand Committee, but there are clauses
in the Bill that are highly controversial. It is not just about experts coming in;
it is about people who feel that their lives or livelihoods are at stake. “
Baroness Lister
“I am very concerned that we are debating a bill that has many aspects which
are yet to be finalised. This is a most unsatisfactory situation which many
people have expressed concern about. Yesterday matters were made worse
by the Coalition Government insisting that the bill is discussed in Grand
Committee and not in the Chamber of the House of Lords. It will make
scrutiny more difficult and cause real problems for members of the public
who want to come and observe proceedings.”
Lord Kennedy
“I am seriously concerned about the ability of all noble Lords to participate
in the proceedings on this Bill. The noble Baroness has rightly drawn attention
to the shortcomings of the Moses Room. Those shortcomings are just as
apparent on the Committee Corridor. Several colleagues have told me in
clear terms that the rooms upstairs are not much better and that a lot of
furniture will need to be moved to facilitate those who have difficulty with
mobility and to enable lobby groups and those who are interested in the Bill
to participate and observe proceedings.”
Lord Bassam, Opposition Chief Whip
Some also stated their approval:
“I would prefer that every bill were considered in Grand Committee. It avoids
votes at an early stage of examining the bill, the atmosphere is more intimate
and business-like and we can spend more time on the detail. It feels to me
like a more normal less stilted way of discussing an issue. The Education Bill
was on its 10th day in committee yesterday for example whereas in the Chamber
it would be rushed through more quickly. There is room to spread out one’s
papers on a table in front of the speaker, the Minister has his support team
of bill experts immediately behind him to consult and because it is not televised
there is usually precious little grand-standing and posturing. It is easier to
interrupt to question without it seeming rude. A technical bill like the Welfare
Reform Bill in particular is best examined outside the Chamber. Then it
returns to the Chamber for the important Report Stage when the
important votes are taken.”
Baroness Murphy
We have three main concerns regarding this development:
• Firstly, access is poor. We are concerned that wheelchair users in particular
will be affected by this, not to mention members of the public who wish to attend.
• Secondly, we are still unsure if live streaming will be available allowing
campaigners like us and the general public to follow debates and scrutinise
them properly and democratically.
• Thirdly, amendments will not be voted upon in Grand Committee, all
amendments must be agreed upon unanimously. Just one objection can
prevent any attempt to fix the faults of this bill.
We would like to urge you all to contact crossbenchers in the House of
Lords (details below) to express your own concerns over this development.
We suggest asking for live streaming so that we can at least see events as
they happen, not 3 hours later and, of course, raising your objections to
the bill so that the Lords understand how it will, as it currently stands, affect so many of us.
We made a difference last time. We can make a difference this time.
Lord Aberdare
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_aberdare
Lord Adebowale
House of Lords,
London,
SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8704adebowalev@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8704adebowalev@parliament.uk
Baroness Afshar
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353afsharh@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353afsharh@parliament.uk
Viscount Allenby of Megiddo
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3497
Fax: 020 7219 0670, 020 7219 5179
Tel: 020 7219 3497
Fax: 020 7219 0670, 020 7219 5179
michael.allenby@btopenworld.com
Lord Alton of Liverpool
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3551
Fax: 020 7219 3551altond@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3551
Fax: 020 7219 3551altond@parliament.uk
Lord Armstrong of Ilminster
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 4983
Fax: 020 7219 1259armstrongr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 4983
Fax: 020 7219 1259armstrongr@parliament.uk
The Earl of Bewdley
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/earl_baldwin_of_bewdley
Lord Best
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6799best@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6799best@parliament.uk
Lord Bew
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
p.bew@qub.a.uk
Lord Bichard
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353m.bichard@btinternet.com
Tel: 020 7219 5353m.bichard@btinternet.com
Lord Bilimoria
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6040
Fax: 020 7219 5979bilimoria@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6040
Fax: 020 7219 5979bilimoria@parliament.uk
Lord Birt
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8705birtj@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8705birtj@parliament.uk
Lord Blair of Broughton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_blair_of_boughton
Betty Boothroyd
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8673
Tel: 020 7219 8673
boothroyd@parliament.uk
Lord Boyce
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8714
Tel: 020 7219 8714
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_boyce
Lord Bramall
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6621
Tel: 020 7219 6621
bramallen@parliament.uk
Lord Briggs
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_briggs
Lord Broers
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
anb1000@cam.ac.uk
Viscount Brookeborough
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 1668
Tel: 020 7219 1668
brookboroughA@parliament.uk
Lord Browne of Madingley
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_browne_of_madingley
Lord Browne-Wilkinson
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 1639
Tel: 020 7219 1639
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_browne-wilkinson
Lord Burns
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 0312burnst@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 0312burnst@parliament.uk
Lord Butler of Brockwell
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353butlerf@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353butlerf@parliament.uk
Baroness Butler-Sloss
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 4044butlerslosse@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 4044butlerslosse@parliament.uk
Lord Cameron of Dillington
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 2530camerone@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 2530camerone@parliament.uk
Lord Cameron of Lochbroom
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_cameron_of_lochbroom
Baroness Campbell of Loughborough
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_campbell_of_loughborough
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5124campbelljs@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5124campbelljs@parliament.uk
Lord Carey of Clifton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
admin@glcarey.co.uk
Lord Carswell
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353carswellr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353carswellr@parliament.uk
Lord Chitnis
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_chitnis
Lord Chorley
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_chorley
Earl of Clancarty
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8929clancartyn@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8929clancartyn@parliament.uk
Lord Cobbold
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6887
Tel: 020 7219 6887
david@parkgatehouse.net
Lord Condon
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3617
Tel: 020 7219 3617
condonp@parliament.uk
Baroness Coussins
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353coussinsj@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353coussinsj@parliament.uk
Baroness Cox
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
ccox@ertnet.demon.co.uk
Lord Craig of Radley
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 2200craigd@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 2200craigd@parliament.uk
Viscount Craigavon
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3881
Tel: 020 7219 3881
craigavonJ@parliament.uk
Lord Crisp
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3873
Tel: 020 7219 3873
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_crisp
Lord Cullen of Whitekirk
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_cullen_of_whitekirk
Lord Currie of Marylebone
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_currie_of_marylebone
Lord Dannatt
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353dannattr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353dannattr@parliament.uk
Lord Dear
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3576deargj@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3576deargj@parliament.uk
Baroness Deech
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3562deechr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3562deechr@parliament.uk
Lord Eames
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
earmesR@parliament.uk
Lord Elis-Thomas
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8701elisthomasd@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8701elisthomasd@parliament.uk
Lord Elystan-Morgan
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_elystan-morgan
Baroness Emerton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5035
Tel: 020 7219 5035
audrey.emerton@sja.org.uk
Earl of Erroll
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3885errollm@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3885errollm@parliament.uk
Viscount of Falkland
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3230
Tel: 020 7219 3230
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/viscount_falkland
Lord Fellowes
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8754
Tel: 020 7219 8754
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_fellowes
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6693
Fax: 020 7219 1991finlayi@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6693
Fax: 020 7219 1991finlayi@parliament.uk
Baroness Flather
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Fax: 020 7219 5979
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Fax: 020 7219 5979
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_flather
Lord Freyberg
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5101freybergv@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5101freybergv@parliament.uk
Baroness Fritchie
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353fritchiei@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353fritchiei@parliament.uk
Baroness Greenfield
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6451greenfieldsu@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6451greenfieldsu@parliament.uk
Baroness Greengross
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5494
Fax: 020 7219 5979greengrosss@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5494
Fax: 020 7219 5979greengrosss@parliament.uk
Lord Greenway
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 4943greenwaya@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 4943greenwaya@parliament.uk
Baroness Grey-Thompson
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3143greythompsont@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3143greythompsont@parliament.uk
Lord Griffiths
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
griffithsLJ@parliament.uk
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
guthrie@rothschild.co.uk
Lord Hall of Birkenhead
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353halla@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353halla@parliament.uk
Lord Hameed
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7935 5012
Fax: 020 7431 4867hameed@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7935 5012
Fax: 020 7431 4867hameed@parliament.uk
Lord Hannay of Chiswick
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 1358
Tel: 020 7219 1358
richardson@una.org.uk
Lord Harries of Pentregarth
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 2910harriesr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 2910harriesr@parliament.uk
Lord Haskins
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_haskins
Lord Hastings of Scarisbrick
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3781hastingsm@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3781hastingsm@parliament.uk
Baroness Hayman
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353haymanh@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353haymanh@parliament.uk
Lord Hennessy of Nympsfield
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5790hennessyp@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5790hennessyp@parliament.uk
Lord Hoffmann
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6067hoffmannl@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6067hoffmannl@parliament.uk
Baroness Hogg
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5417
Tel: 020 7219 5417
hoggs@parliament.uk
Baroness Hollins
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_hollins
Lord Hope of Thornes
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
HopeJAD@parliament.uk
Baroness Howarth of Breckland
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8744howarthv@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8744howarthv@parliament.uk
Baroness Howe of Idlicote
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6581
Fax: 020 7219 1991howee@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6581
Fax: 020 7219 1991howee@parliament.uk
Lord Hutton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 1639
Tel: 020 7219 1639
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_hutton
Lord Hylton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3883
Fax: 020 7219 5979hyltonr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3883
Fax: 020 7219 5979hyltonr@parliament.uk
Lord Imbert
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_imbert
Lord Inge
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8706ingep@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8706ingep@parliament.uk
Lord Janvrin
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6989janvrinr@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 6989janvrinr@parliament.uk
Lord Jay of Ewelme
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3941jaymh@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 3941jaymh@parliament.uk
Lord Jones of Birmingham
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3232
Tel: 020 7219 3232
mpst.jones@berr.gsi.gov.uk
Lord Kakkar
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353kakkara@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353kakkara@parliament.uk
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_kerr_of_kinlochard
Lord Kilclooney
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6443
Fax: 020 7931 7211
Tel: 020 7219 6443
Fax: 020 7931 7211
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_kilclooney
Lord Knights
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_knights
Lord Krebs
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_krebs
Lord Laming
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 1414
Tel: 020 7219 1414
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_laming
Lord Levene of Portsoken
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_levene_of_portsoken
Lord Lewis of Newnham
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5093
Tel: 020 7219 5093
lewisJ@parliament.uk
Earl of Listowel
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 2247listowelf@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 2247listowelf@parliament.uk
Lord Lloyd of Berwick
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3169
Tel: 020 7219 3169
lloydAJ@parliament.uk
Lord Low of Dalston
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 4119lowc@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 4119lowc@parliament.uk
Lord Luce
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6147
Tel: 020 7219 6147
luceR@parliament.uk
Earl of Lytton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/earl_of_lytton
Lord McCluskey
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
emily@johnsmithtrust.org
Baroness McFarlane of Llandaff
McfarlaneJ@parliament.uk
Baroness Maningham-Buller
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_manningham-buller
Countess of Mar
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8627
Fax: 020 7219 1991marm@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 8627
Fax: 020 7219 1991marm@parliament.uk
Lord Marshall of Knightsbridge
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_marshall_of_knightsbridge
Lord Martin of Springburn
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353martinm@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 5353martinm@parliament.uk
Baroness Masham of Ilton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6302
Fax: 020 7219 5979
Tel: 020 7219 6302
Fax: 020 7219 5979
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_masham_of_ilton
Lord Mawson
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6949
Tel: 020 7219 6949
mawsona@parliament.uk
Lord May of Oxford
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6958
Tel: 020 7219 6958
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_may_of_oxford
Baroness Meacher
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 4081
Tel: 020 7219 4081
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/baroness_meacher
Lord Millett
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 6380
Tel: 020 7219 6380
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_millett
Lord Mogg
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_mogg
Lord Molyneaux of Killead
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Fax: 020 7219 2347mckeem@parliament.uk
Fax: 020 7219 2347mckeem@parliament.uk
Viscount Montgomery of Alamein
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/viscount_montgomery_of_alamein
Lord Moran
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Fax: 020 7219 5979
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Fax: 020 7219 5979
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_moran
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 8727
Tel: 020 7219 8727
morgand@parliament.uk
Lord Moser
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 3283
Tel: 020 7219 3283
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_moser
Baroness Murphy
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 2277murphyel@parliament.uk
Tel: 020 7219 2277murphyel@parliament.uk
Lord Mustill
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/lord_mustill
Lord Neill of Bladen
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
Tel: 020 7219 5353
Tel: 020 7219 5353
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Baroness Neuberger
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead
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Lord Nickson
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Duke of Norfolk
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Lord Northbourne
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House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Baroness O’Neill of Bengarve
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Ouseley
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Owen
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Oxburgh
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Lord Palmer
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Lord Pannick
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Patel
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Patten of Barnes
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Earl Peel
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Powell of Bayswater
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Baroness Prashar
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Quirk
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Ramsbotham
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Rana
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Rees of Ludlow
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Rees-Mogg
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Renwick of Clifton
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Baroness Richardson of Calow
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Rix
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Earl of Rosslyn
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Rowe-Beddoe
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Sacks
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord St John of Blesto
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lady Saltoun of Abernethy
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Earl of Sandwich
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Saville of Newdigate
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Scott of Foscote
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Lord Skidelsky
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Viscount Slim
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Smith of Kelvin
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Earl of Stair
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Baroness Stern
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Lord Stern of Brentford
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Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington
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Lord Stevenson of Coddenham
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Lord Steyn
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Lord Stirrup
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House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Tombs
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Turnbull
House of Lords, London, SW1A 0PW
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Lord Turner of Ecchinswell
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Baroness Valentine
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Lord Williamson of Horton
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Lord Wilson of Tilyorn
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Baroness Young of Hornsey
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There is also a SIGNIFICANT amount of the Bill That affects HOUSING and people sustaining their living. It affects Social Landlords with a potential rental stream disruption, affecting services to ALL social Tenants. I have far more on this. Theres a major objection to most aspects of the Bill from Housing Organisations and Housing Professionals, let alone Tenants Groups either larger consultatives, or individual tenant groups. Be assurred ALL effort on this matters so much. You can join This mass action and act from the information above. We also have a STOP THE WELFARE REFORM BILL email campaign on FACEBOOK HERE: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=210468569012607 I personally Congratulate all the people that are forming a team across many channels to object to this gross injustice. On twitter we've called it #teamwrb.
ReplyDeleteThe government are very underhand and the bill has been passed im told in private and is being implemented by the civil service already hence people are receiving letters that their payments might be stopped next April as outlined by the bbc
ReplyDeleteI think it to late for the lords they should have known full well months ago what was happening behind the scenes and it would be very foolish for them not to have known i have known so therefore they must have known my mp knows and has kept quite in order to not rock the boat
I think at this time anyone believing anything coming out from the government would be very foolish indeed
Shafted that's the word that comes to mind, by all.
ReplyDeleteAll in it together mp's lords, charities yes the charities. Cant be seen to upsetting the Govt or they would have done something a very long time ago.
What pisses me off we all fell for it aint life so sweet. Not going to bother mailing, writing, phoning anyone, just gonna do my own thing and fxxx everyone else and by my own thing anything that makes money and illegal just like the whole feckxx lot of them
Sadly the population for the most part is as dysfunctional as the politicians, media, bankers, fat cats… I cannot think of any cohort that’s not. There is no society, no vision, no direction, and no ambition within 20 years we will no longer have a United Kingdom either each part will go its own separate way. After that society with collapse into anarchy and extinction
ReplyDeleteyou have to remember that the lords and the vast majority of mp's are not affected by any cuts and never will be hence that is why they always sound so remote and always have done
ReplyDeleteThe only reason politics is so bad in the UK is because the people are so gullible and naive some would say they are just badly educated i think the truth be told they are in general just greedy and selfish to a level that is at an all time high
@fourbanks
ReplyDeleteyou make a lot of sense.
what do you think of this?
Many Psychopaths "make their living" by using charm, deceit, and manipulation to gain the confidence of their victims. Many of them can be found in white collar professions where they are aided in their evil by the fact that most people expect certain classes of people to be trustworthy because of their social or professional credentials. Lawyers, doctors, teachers, politicians, psychiatrists and psychologists, generally do not have to earn our trust because they have it by virtue of their positions. But the fact is: psychopaths are found in such lofty spheres.
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
Q: Why have share prices plunged?
ReplyDeleteA: Nervous investors were spooked by apocalyptic language from bankers about the world economy.
Is this why they are paid billions in bonuses – for their professional ability to speak in apocalyptic language?
[QUOTE]Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete@fourbanks
you make a lot of sense.
what do you think of this?
Many Psychopaths "make their living" by using charm, deceit, and manipulation to gain the confidence of their victims. Many of them can be found in white collar professions where they are aided in their evil by the fact that most people expect certain classes of people to be trustworthy because of their social or professional credentials. Lawyers, doctors, teachers, politicians, psychiatrists and psychologists, generally do not have to earn our trust because they have it by virtue of their positions. But the fact is: psychopaths are found in such lofty spheres.
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm[/QUOTE]
They do indeed but the government aren't Psychopaths they are like they have always been and that's to destroy the lives of the vulnerable be it the many elderly who die each year through the cold and now it's the sick and disabled through the cuts
They are overall like any other dictator but with a caring smile with Hitler he had a plan but with the UK governments theirs is not so much a plan theirs is just one of showing a caring face to the public while stabbing you in the back in private
Hitler had a plan had he lived he would have been arrested for war crimes but death through the cold or expedited stress from the DWP/ATOS is just classed as unfortunate without any redress in law and yet over 10000 elderly deaths occur each year because of the cold and all the government can say is bad luck
I have to say I have yet to see the political “caring face” unless you mean that reptilian smile. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck than surely it is a duck?
ReplyDelete[QUOTE]Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI have to say I have yet to see the political “caring face” unless you mean that reptilian smile. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck than surely it is a duck?[/QUOTE]
The caring face only comes out at election time but with times getting very tough were told by the government they will be beating us with the biggest stick they can find as we are classed as causing the recession don't forget yes i hear you say it was the bankers but David Cameron thinks not
Politically if he killed us all off and closed down the NHS he would be quite prepared to spend the next ten years in opposition knowing that his master plan had been mastered at long last
The EU is struggling in keeping going because they are desperate to support the vulnerable if it were not for us then financially things would be OK
But as the unemployed are now also a burden things will be getting difficult for them as well it's a very serious problem has if handled badly the death rate of the sick and disabled will run into the thousands just like the elderly each year with the cold
The uk is heading for a total breakdown with up to 10 million unemployed over the next few years if the EU does not redress this issue with Greece who must leave the EU if the UK is to survive at all
If the EU continue to bail out Greece then the banks will fail at some point the money wont just wont be available for the sick and disabled they will have to live housebound as will of course will the unemployed
Poverty is rife in Greece so I'm told Spain also in the history of the UK this is the worst situation possible and only the likes of mp's and higher rank are going to make it through
As the USA president would say their are dark days ahead so your best bet is to "get out of town "
@fourbanks
ReplyDeleteI agree with much you say.
The sick and disabled as we both are could indeed be seen as a burden however, we could also be seen as a precious and profitable commodity too with the right political and business model in place. Drug companies, all medical Professionals, manufactures of medical aids etc. (the list is long) are all heavily dependent on us for if we did not exist then neither would they. Other we cannot ignore the fact that other counties are actually doing well right now therefore there has to be something very wrong with our “model” to have brought us to this sorry state of affairs.