I'm sure they won't mind me posting it in full :
Government delays Welfare Reform Bill
15 July 2011
The Government has been forced to delay the 2nd Reading of the flagship Bill in the Lords due to peers' concerns over the people affected.
DWP is suggesting other business has blocked progress but the surprise postponement till September from Tues will also give the Government time to lobby peers and answer the queries raised in DA's legal challenge.
This is wonderful, surprising, startling news!!! I need a little lie down before I say any more, but remember this - if it gives the government more time to lobby, it gives us more time too :)))
You bet it does!
ReplyDeleteGreat news Sue At least there's a Glimmer of hope now...
ReplyDeleteI'm not making any comment sue as i have friends who are very close to this government in a professional capacity and they know just what David Cameron has on his mind
ReplyDeleteI myself have never met David but if he's very much like those that i have met over the years then this fight for justice that we seek is still a long way off
Having said all that i am very pleased with this delay at this time
thanks sue,, any glimmer of hope is got to be better than none at all,, lets hope it shines.............
ReplyDeleteYay!!!
ReplyDeletethat's interesting news-trying to be pragmatic about the possible outcomes but we certainly need hope.
ReplyDeleteyes.....good news, we have to keep on keeping on.... regards
ReplyDeleteGreat news...for now. It shows what can happen if the pressure is kept up on the Con Dems.
ReplyDeleteA good day for the tories to bury another piece of bad news, yes? Rebecca Brooks gone, BBC on strike. Perfect timing.
ReplyDeleteIt seems the Lords have more sense than the commons. Let's hope they can moderate the effects of this bill.
ReplyDeleteWonderful news! Gives them time to understand what exactly their cuts are going to do - really really happy!!!
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ReplyDeleteDoes this mean there will be not more cuts? :(
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble here but the Second Reading had *always been planned* for September.
ReplyDeleteIt was moved forward to July because the schedulers thought they had a free day, but other bussiness got in the way.
This is exactly the same as if you told a friend you'd come visit over the weekend, then your appointment with JCP is cancelled, so you say you can come Friday, then it turns out that your landlord wants to get that light fitting that always been dodgy fixed, so you need to be at home for that, so you're going on Saturday after all, then a blogger says that this clearly proves you don't like your friend at all.
Funny, that's exactly what the government said. Still tomorrow, more will be revealed....
ReplyDeleteIntriguing?
ReplyDelete( quiries Raised). Wonder what they mat be. One could be the integrity of the Government???
ReplyDeleteJust how can The Lords be better informed?.
Paul
My question exacly Paul, how can they be better informed. They surely know what is going on can't be that oblivious can they!!. My guess is the Govt have been scared by the threat of the human rights issue and want to reassure the lords that all is oki doki whilst glossing over a bit. I just hope they can see through the charade
ReplyDeleteIts still good news, they are not going give it full attention if pushing it in to the last day of work are they? No-one thinks this is easy battle but we can at least celebrate the small things.
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ReplyDeleteI'm not making any comment sue as i have friends who are very close to this government in a professional capacity and they know just what David Cameron has on his mind
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In other words, call-me-Dave who had a disabled son and claimed DLA (even with his millions) wants to remove most - if not all - social protection and funding for sick/disabled people, right?
That *is* the endgame I think the Tories (and some Blairites in Labour) really want. They must be stopped at all costs.
1. The Lib Dems are causing trouble over the housing benefit cut.
ReplyDelete2. The Disability Alliance threatened legal action over the assessments done into cuts to sickness and disability benefits.
3. We've been lobbying the Lords all over the place.
4. There is much more cross party opposition to the cuts we face in the Lords
5. The government still have many details to confirm in the bill.
6. Someone had a "mix up" over diaries on one of the governments flagship bills that they are desperate to push through parliament as quickly as possible
7. You don't allow a 2nd reading of a bill that has a chance of being defeated so embarrassingly early.
You decide.
Could we get Rupert Murdoch to hack the DWP voicemails, do you think, so we can find out what they're REALLY thinking?
ReplyDeleteBetter still, now he's lost the News Of The World, could we persuade him that he needs The Daily Mail? Who knows, maybe he could close that scum too.. (no, now I'm dreaming LOL)
The Work and Pensions Committee has also announced an inquiry into the DLA changes. There's a lot of coincidences happening at once that have been fortunate.
ReplyDeleteThank you for all that you do. A bit of me is worrying that this will give more time for them to stitch everyone up with regard to dla. But I must retain hope for without hope I have nothing. You help me to have continued hope.
ReplyDeleteThis is only a breathing space for us. We must keep up the pressure. I shall pass this information on to the TUC and ensure that all trade unions are aware of the new date for submissions.
ReplyDeleteThat light at the end of the tunnel MAY WELL **BE** an oncoming train - but it hasn't hit me yet!
ReplyDeleteAnd into the Work Capability Assessments to be run (I think) by Harrington again. All in a few days. Following a legal challenge by 270 charities. Following a Lib breaking ranks on housing cap,
ReplyDeleteIf all else failed, I had suggested we run a campaign of delay as far as we possibly could. Time will always work in our favour as daily more people hear what we're trying to say.
It's only a small step, but I'm delighted by every 2 months here and there we can win.
[QUOTE]Douglas said...
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I'm not making any comment sue as i have friends who are very close to this government in a professional capacity and they know just what David Cameron has on his mind
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In other words, call-me-Dave who had a disabled son and claimed DLA (even with his millions) wants to remove most - if not all - social protection and funding for sick/disabled people, right?
That *is* the endgame I think the Tories (and some Blairites in Labour) really want. They must be stopped at all costs[/QUOTE].
The endgame is two fold Douglas and that is to remove as much money from the sick and disabled by whatever means they can. Just because the lords will have a view and a vote that does not mean they will stop in what the government ultimately has set out to do and that is to reduce the overall welfare bill
The other tactic that they use has not even been addressed by anyone and that is the personal vendetta in which your local main benefit office target a very select group like myself and say that you have had a over payment of which you haven't and hand over the case to a debt agency who have the power to come in to your home at will
These involves all sorts of additional stress in where you have to contact your mp and lawyer plus your health team just to keep yourself going and although you don't owe this money it's very effective in causing you long term worry spread over many years as you never know when the bailiffs will be coming round
The third tactic which is much more common that is used is where by they record your every move when you leave your house i used to suffer for many years with this and learned to live with it so i thought but as i have got older i very rarely now leave the house
As for myself whatever the outcome on this vote will be completely immaterial as they have already destroyed my life of which their is no turning it around sad to say
Also i should make clear that both the government and the seniors in the house of lords could never be classed as normal people.
ReplyDeleteThe majority in the house of lords live a singular completely detached life and very rarely venture out on their own and even when i worked in amongst them or socialised in the evening with their friends the chances are they would never ever acknowledge you the same for the government ministers never a word of thanks never
And yet these are the same very people who will make up policy's on who's fit and who's not and everything else in between and in reality they are so detached from you they could be referring to the dogs muck on their shoes such is their remoteness from ever having to come in contact with a sick or disabled person
A most truly shocking state of affairs if ever their was one
That's great news Sue. I hope something can be achieved in those few months. If there's anything you think we can all do let us now.
ReplyDeleteBritain's top cop Sir Paul Stephenson knifes David Cameron as he quits
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2011/07/18/britain-s-top-cop-sir-paul-stephenson-knifes-david-cameron-as-he-quits-115875-23278286/
Makes one wonder what remains undiscovered among the great and the good ...
A small step if it was ever one of his but I remain unconvinced that they know best and that their interest is in the heart, is its distance instead of being treated the sick or disabled
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