tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post8322484262735378489..comments2024-03-28T09:16:33.241+00:00Comments on Diary of a Benefit Scrounger: LIB DEMS PASS MOTION AND AMENDMENT ON ESA!!Sue Marshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14849801822216267250noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-27726817483648271892021-06-05T09:53:23.103+01:002021-06-05T09:53:23.103+01:00
I started on COPD Herbal treatment from Ultimate ...<br />I started on COPD Herbal treatment from Ultimate Health Home, the treatment worked incredibly for my lungs condition. I used the herbal treatment for almost 4 months, it reversed my COPD. My severe shortness of breath, dry cough, chest tightness gradually disappeared. Reach Ultimate Health Home via their website www.ultimatelifeclinic.com . I can breath much better and It feels comfortable!<br /><br />Florencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247616144267009897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-25055493345845024802011-09-23T04:22:54.842+01:002011-09-23T04:22:54.842+01:00Just want to add my congratulations to you and Geo...Just want to add my congratulations to you and George on getting this through, and thanks to all of the LibDems who voted for it. Now we just need their parliamentary party to deliver the change their members have bound them to.<br /><br />I'd hoped I could help more, pushing the motion on the various Liberal websites, but it turned out I was stuck in a near-net-free zone just when I needed that net access, bah!DavidGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734028655032503805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-24764126617829403542011-09-19T22:34:16.207+01:002011-09-19T22:34:16.207+01:00Anonymous 09.31.
Are you saying we should not fo...Anonymous 09.31. <br /><br />Are you saying we should not focus on only contributory ESA? <br /><br />If so, then, I don't. With particular reference to the time limit, it just so happens to affect people on contributory. It is also easily the biggest cut (3-5 billion)and affects 700,000 people. <br /><br />ESA and Time Limiting are just the very specific things I chose to focus on. Broken of Britain are more focused on DLA. Other groups focus on the company responsible conducting for WCAs. Yet more focus on social care or access to mobility aids or mental health care. <br /><br />It doesn't mean other issues aren't important or that we don't do a LOT of other work on the other issues. It also doesn't mean that just as others help me with ESA, I don't help them with their issues behind the scenes. That's just how it has to be. <br /><br />There are many things to fight in the WRB and I think we are successful because we've all experienced different aspects of the welfare system or NHS and therefore are experts about them.Sue Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849801822216267250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-23821599550125779102011-09-19T18:56:34.256+01:002011-09-19T18:56:34.256+01:00Hi Anonymous 09.31,
you can be sure w...Hi Anonymous 09.31,<br /> you can be sure we will all remain thoughtful about the underlying principles of terrible ESA... I am also sure that if any of these wrongs are put right we shall still fight until all of it is fair... This really is good news.. i'm also very tired & ill from all of this but i'm trying not to sap more energy from myself just because i'm scared to hope or think one tiny change might mean the rest of the fight might be lost... As Sue says we have gone from 'no chance to some'... keep your chin up... best wishes... NitaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-32651644758931508622011-09-19T09:31:11.631+01:002011-09-19T09:31:11.631+01:00This is not meant to put a downer on this achievem...This is not meant to put a downer on this achievement which Sue you have worked on so hard but -----. I'd like to make an observation. "They" always seem to win by dividing the opposition and ending up by tweaking inhumane legislation rather than discussing the ethics of what under pins it? In this case a Dr or specialist is no longer "qualified" to determine a persons ability to work or not. There is a presumption that sick and disabled people are "scroungers" who will do their best not to work if at all possible. The "genuinely sick and disabled" phrase says it all really. I guess there are 2 groups of people likely to be claiming ESA ----- those who have worked and then become ill and those who have never been able to work. If one of those groups can be appeased then the movement to get rid of ATOS testing etc will be seriously undermined whilst the principles of ever increasing conditionality remain in place and whilst those who struggle to work in the first place get trampled under foot. So I just think that we should remain thoughtful re the underlying principles of the ESA benefit.<br />SueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-40997353624647998872011-09-18T20:10:16.314+01:002011-09-18T20:10:16.314+01:00Thank you Sue for all your hard work...and all tho...Thank you Sue for all your hard work...and all those representing disabled people...I for one am truly thankful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-42881483406823751932011-09-18T17:00:44.334+01:002011-09-18T17:00:44.334+01:00I missed out the word 'reforms' after insi...I missed out the word 'reforms' after insidious! Ooops.Terry Hickmotthttp://www.leukaemianorthwales.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-52020613690808281342011-09-18T16:58:48.365+01:002011-09-18T16:58:48.365+01:00I wonder how much opposition to these insidious wi...I wonder how much opposition to these insidious will be debated at the Labour Party conference.<br />Well done Sue for getting your head around this minefield we call 'democracy'.<br /><br />TerryTerry Hickmotthttp://www.leukaemianorthwales.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-67022088355613077952011-09-18T16:04:29.331+01:002011-09-18T16:04:29.331+01:00P.S. Sorry but what are 'crossbenchers'? N...P.S. Sorry but what are 'crossbenchers'? NitaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-80715244075752986952011-09-18T16:01:22.029+01:002011-09-18T16:01:22.029+01:00Hi Sue,
thanks very much for taking time t...Hi Sue, <br /> thanks very much for taking time to answer.. Yes I totally agree if we are to have any chance this had to happen yesterday & it is brill & gives me extra spoons... Perhaps i'm being bit thick but what i don't understand is the discussion on net etc that came after the motion was passed on wednesday to have 'it' in a side room... I have read that the difference between where the scrutiny is (ie. in a side room rather than open lords) means not being able to vote but only to agree unanimously... have i got that wrong?... Are we having to hope now for all to accept the amendment?... Cheers 'Nita :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-49816809364297665832011-09-18T15:19:10.998+01:002011-09-18T15:19:10.998+01:00Well done and thank you for all your work on this....Well done and thank you for all your work on this. I almost don't regret voting Lib Dem at the last election now, good to see that there are some left with true integrity.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710776765139258627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-66727622610740143502011-09-18T14:57:45.801+01:002011-09-18T14:57:45.801+01:00Anonymous 11.02
The bill is still in the Lords. ...Anonymous 11.02 <br /><br />The bill is still in the Lords. It now enters the most important phase. Peers get to scrutinise the bill line by line and debate and discuss any faults or flaws in it. <br /><br />This is the stage where amendments to the bill will be debated and hopefully, added in. <br /><br />After this stage, we have the 3rd reading of the bill, where peers will vote once and for all to either pass the bill or pass it with amendments. <br /><br />We are very much hoping for amendments!!<br /><br />The LibDem conference motion and amendment mean that Lib Dem peers have a stronger hand to argue for amendments during the committee stage. In particular. I think it makes the one year time limit much shakier as that is in both the motion and the amendment. <br /><br />I desperately wanted the motion to pass as I knew if we have any hope at all of making any changes to the bill, we need to break the coalition majority in the Lords and focus on also lobbying cross benchers. <br /><br />This doesn't guarantee that we will get any changes, but it makes it much more likely. Our chances went from zero to "some" yesterday.Sue Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849801822216267250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-48107091322942140712011-09-18T14:37:24.095+01:002011-09-18T14:37:24.095+01:00@Sue OK =) That's fine@Sue OK =) That's finedisabledmedichttp://www.disabledmedic.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-42723111684982281462011-09-18T11:28:44.016+01:002011-09-18T11:28:44.016+01:00thanks to all, we can never repay the debt but ete...thanks to all, we can never repay the debt but eternally gratefullAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-40184777804451183952011-09-18T11:02:07.641+01:002011-09-18T11:02:07.641+01:00Hello Sue,
firstly fantastic! this vote i...Hello Sue,<br /> firstly fantastic! this vote is very important & i'm still shedding a few tears... you take many, many knocks & it seems George has too... I thank all of the brave speakers & those who helped.. We must let this lonely 'yes' vote by grass roots people soothe the sad, tired & terrified rejection we are going through, on top of our ill heath & disabilities...<br /> I am reprieved from disappearing into despair by this motion & vote but all i can keep thinking of is how it can't go further... Please respond to this if you can: If this was going to the open lords & could be voted on I might truly have real hope for the 1st time in 18 months at least! Due to the fact that it has been sidelined despite massive controversy & therefore any amendments need to be agreed UNANIMOUSLY (& not democratically voted on) does this mean that in reality it can't get any further??<br /> I am also amazed watching Lib Dem conference how grassroots are being prevented from democratic voice & votes!!... I will always have reason to work with good people but it is obvious my vote means nothing & i cannot just give it away... <br /> I do think the motion wording is good & even those thinking the system is full of scroungers may see the sense in it but if it only takes one voice against in committee will it just become symbolic retrospectively as the damage & murder reveals itself??<br /> I'm not being negative... It was a life saver to see grass roots vote for sense even though the vote on the NHS has them mixed up... As you say it comes from the top & this conference shows it again so clearly...<br /> Anyway i would appreciate your opinion & that of others on whether this can force them back into the lords for voting?<br /> Thankyou all so much & best wishes.. NitaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-66129826284480199892011-09-18T02:30:56.775+01:002011-09-18T02:30:56.775+01:00I spoke with some local lib dem members about the ...I spoke with some local lib dem members about the inhumane system regarding ESA etc. I actually told Mr Clegg as he was getting out of his ministerial car that people had possibly died and more were going to die because of this. I spoke in a reasonable manner ( this was in the north glasgow constituency meeting . It kind of went a bit mad after that as an egg got chucked, but what struck me ( the egg did too ) was that the lib dem Scottish MSP had said that no one had spoken up about any grievances that they may have had and if they had spoken up then they would have been listened to. This was a very inaccurate picture of the days events and I am glad to see that some one from the North Glasgow branch has helped with this motion. I don't understand the technicalities of this stuff but I know that anyone who has a heart will be fighting for change. Best wishes and thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-58467322457539915392011-09-18T00:03:07.902+01:002011-09-18T00:03:07.902+01:00Sue, you don't know me but I've been follo...Sue, you don't know me but I've been following this fight. And thank you, thank you with all my heart, for fighting on behalf of me and all the others out there.<br /><br />Thank you.Frithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-75478244928353728312011-09-17T22:28:02.252+01:002011-09-17T22:28:02.252+01:00Congratulations and thank you for all the work you...Congratulations and thank you for all the work you've put into doing this. Keep fighting the good fight :) xxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-56242177672215561532011-09-17T22:07:53.030+01:002011-09-17T22:07:53.030+01:00Just I want to mention the amazing job you did of ...Just I want to mention the amazing job you did of live tweeting the #wrb at the end of the post planned, but it's a biggie, so thought I'd better check firstSue Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849801822216267250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-60942442848578339462011-09-17T21:58:46.274+01:002011-09-17T21:58:46.274+01:00Well done Sue. Hopefully now others who are being...Well done Sue. Hopefully now others who are being carried on by the Welfare Reforms will also see sense. It is ridiculous to have a time limit on being ill - I've been ill for four years now and there is no hope of me recovering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-71643862639815325182011-09-17T21:46:19.320+01:002011-09-17T21:46:19.320+01:00:) You have fought so hard. Thank you. You are on ...:) You have fought so hard. Thank you. You are on the side of the angels, Sue. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-84367342232327740402011-09-17T21:44:43.793+01:002011-09-17T21:44:43.793+01:00I am really brain foggy and I don't understand...I am really brain foggy and I don't understand what you mean by 'namecheck'!disabledmedichttp://www.disabledmedic.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-56902144374036593362011-09-17T21:39:17.910+01:002011-09-17T21:39:17.910+01:00Excellent news. The work all of you put in is very...Excellent news. The work all of you put in is very much appreciated by many of us out here.<br /><br />EbonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-24354180837786313262011-09-17T21:23:20.966+01:002011-09-17T21:23:20.966+01:00disabledmedic - I'm planning a huge post for (...disabledmedic - I'm planning a huge post for (hopefully) Monday re moving bill to Grand Committee in Lords. Mind if I namecheck you for #teamwrb ?Sue Marshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849801822216267250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568034298343558962.post-43085096657864107772011-09-17T21:13:33.351+01:002011-09-17T21:13:33.351+01:00That's great =]
Take care of yourself now, an...That's great =]<br /><br />Take care of yourself now, and rest (and enjoy that glass of wine!)<br /><br />Flodisabledmedichttp://www.disabledmedic.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com